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[kʰ] -> [kʰ~x]?

i noticed a recent change in the phonology table, adding [~x] to [kʰ] as an allophone. is there any data or article to back this up? where did it come from? paper2222 (talk) 20:22, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can't currently dig into the history, but I'd suggest to go ahead and revert. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the allophone was randomly added by a logged out user

but, if you say so paper2222 (talk) 16:44, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should the Kra-Dai "teeth" chart be removed?

Charts like these are intended to demonstrate and visualize the relatedness of languages, but this chart has numerous flaws that detract from its ability to do so:

1. The romanization is not internally consistent

PYWAN = *pjwan¹ (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Kam-Sui_reconstructions)

FJƏN = *fʰjən (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Hlai_reconstructions)

LPAN = *l-pənᴬ (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Kra/l-p%C9%99n%E1%B4%AC)

2. The romanization obscures relevant phonetic information, making some of the sound changes unbelievable when they would otherwise make phonetically-motivated sense

3. Not all shown words are cognates when the image implies they would all be descended from *lipan. Numerous words are descended from Proto-Tai *χeːwꟲ "fang" rather than Proto-Tai *wanᴬ "tooth"

4. I can only find contradictory evidence for the existence of a few listed words:

Jiamao CHAN =? saŋ¹ (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Jiamao_vocabulary_lists)

Ong Be WAN =? tɔn¹, tɐn¹ʼ, tən¹, tin¹ (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Be_reconstructions)

Tai Lue SEU =? xew³ (or Lu SIAO =? xew³ Maybe the same language listed twice?) (https://www.webonary.org/dailu?s=tooth&search=Search&key=en&semantic_domain=&search_options_set=1&match_whole_words=1&lang=en)

Sui HIW =? vjən1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180612162325/https://abvd.shh.mpg.de/austronesian/language.php?id=736) 似た牌愛魔 (talk) 14:55, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@似た牌愛魔: Thanks for looking into that. I would prefer the image to be fixed, but if that is not feasible, it should be deleted. --Glennznl (talk) 15:09, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Image for "Thai Langauge"

I am changing the image for "ภาษาไทย" (Thai language) in infobox to use the recently created artwork File:Thai_Language_(in_Thai).svg instead.

The supporting reasons are (1) the original work is in Tahoma, and the font does not fully capture the appropriate structure of Thai alphabets (as it is designed with the aim to disambiguate texts displayed on low-res displays), (2) the original artwork is a bitmap file.

--Sirakorn (talk) 10:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Released glottal stop?

"All plosive sounds, except the glottal stop, are unreleased" does this mean that the final glottal stop is released in Thai? I think that is notable information that should be elaborated on further. Stockhausenfan (talk) 11:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That was recently added without explanation by an IP. Reverted. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Th-TH" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Th-TH has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 27 § Th-TH until a consensus is reached. Cremastra (u — c) 01:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]