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On 6 February 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Skull and Bones to Skull and Bones (secret society). The result of the discussion was No consensus.

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Requested move 23 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus not to move. The discussion did not favor either the suitability of the proposed title or the position that this is no longer the primary topic. (non-admin closure) {{replyto|SilverLocust}} (talk) 06:41, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Skull and Bones → Skull and Bones Society – There is no doubt this page is popular, but it's not the obvious primary topic. In the past year, pageviews demonstrate significant sustained interest for the video game also called "Skull and Bones" that is steady at about 1/5 of the views of this page, which is well within the WP:NOPRIMARY margin. Sometimes views for the game exceed the secret society. If we factor in people clicking on the link from here to the game, it becomes even closer. When the game was popular, pageviews for THIS page spiked by about 1000 views/day from all the people who were confused, so we can assume a significant fraction of visitors here are coming to the wrong place. Another telling statistic is that this page started getting about several hundred more views a day ever since the video game's article was made. Interest is likely to remain high whether or not it is cancelled. There is also a very pertinent WP:NATURAL disambiguated title, as shown. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:27, 23 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 03:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities has been notified of this discussion. Frostly (talk) 03:10, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. I do not agree with this proposal. This organization has never been called the Skull and Bones Society and, therefore, the proposed change would generate an erroneous title for this article. However, the "about" note for this article does not redirect to the video game. It seems that correcting that issue would be a better place to start if, in fact, people are having a problem finding the right article. I will fix this immediately. It is also worth noting that the video game shows up right under the secret society when entering Skull and Bones in the search box, indicating that this issue may be overstated in the move proposal. Rublamb (talk) 03:31, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. No one calls it Skull and Bones Society. If it's decided that the video game should be the target of Skull and Bones, then Skull and Bones (secret society) would be a better name for this page, but I'm skeptical that this is needed. Yilloslime (talk) 03:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, the well-known and influential organization weighed against a video game for primary topic? Don't think so, as well as oppose per weight of historical long-term significance. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:43, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Theheezy (talk) 16:58, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:RECENTISM; video game may have a transient spike in hits, but current target is significantly more well-established. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 17:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I agree with Ohnoitsjamie. The video game seems, to me, to be generating only a transient spike. The Yale society has much stronger justification for keeping the article name. Jax MN (talk) 22:51, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Moved from article

I have moved the following from the Popular Culture section because of a lack of sources. This content can be returned once adequate sources are found:

The first single for New York rock rappers ZillaKami and SosMula's album My Bloody America went under the title "Skull and Bones 322" and references the Skull and Bones secret society.
In American Dad! episode, "Bush Comes to Dinner," when President George W. Bush goes out drinking with Hayley, a drunken Bush dances and sings, "Let's all do the Skull and Bones!"

Rublamb (talk) 04:17, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tomb photo captions

I suggest that the captions for their building say more than just the tomb. It isn’t until much later in the article that readers will learn that “the tomb” is the name of their building. Since tomb has a much more common meaning, readers might be led to believe that this is where members are buried.

So I suggest that the captions be enhanced to clarify this even though it is somewhat repetitive. I am certainly bold enough to have done it myself but I’m not necessarily clear on a really good wording. ++Lar: t/c 01:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, the image could be moved further down, to the section that discusses their building... See MOS:IMAGELOC for more on this. ++Lar: t/c 16:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Rublamb (talk) 18:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]